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Was Paul wrong about the Gospel?
All we need to do is forgive others and love others?
No need for confession of lordship and belief in the resurrection?

The First question we need to ask ourselves is from where does righteousness come, and for whom does it exist?
The second is, why did Christ teach “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, poured out for you” if all we need to do is try to be good and keep the law?     Thirdly, why did Peter endorse Paul in his letter?

 

There is a growing trend on the internet of rejecting the idea that to be saved we must confess Jesus as Lord and believe in the Resurrection, as Paul asserted in Romans 10:9. However, Paul did not say this is all you need to do, and an unbiased read of the book to the Romans chapter 8 will show what Paul clearly believes about righteousness. These ideas are fueled by NDE’s in which spirits inform people that there is no judgment, all we need to do is learn for our mistakes and be loving (whatever love means).

Both John the Baptist and Jesus taught that once God’s Spirit enters us we exchange our fallen values for God’s own values and his ways and his righteousness will shape our hearts, bringing us back to God. The alternative is to continue in our own filthy rags and try to impress God, (or wait for a secret gnosis to be imparted from the gods.)
Of course we are judged by our works, but how exactly can a demon worshiping, rebellious, arrogant, torchured soul be free from destructive feelings and actions? Not by learning secret knowledge, or even by realising how evil they are. Heart change only happens after humility and in response to the fact that Christ took our punishment. Trust in God’s salvation changes ones values, but our a determined effort to refine our own values produces frustration and self-righteousness.

“Jesus said, if you love me you will keep my commandments”. (John 154:15)
“One is your master in heaven” (Mat 23:10).
In summary: we are to repent, submit to God’s goodness and trust for his resurrection life within us–exactly the same as Paul taught.

 

Peter Endorsed Paul

“Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction”. – 1Peter 3:15-16

 

Living By God’s Own Righteousness

They say that Jesus actual teachings were that we should just learn about morality, try to keep the law and forgive others, then everything will be fine. Jesus told the rich man that to get to heaven you need to keep the moral law, and perhaps a good person raised in a good culture can manage this. But how many people are good? Only God is good. We must be more nuanced and dualistic in our thinking, both of these scenarios are true simultaneously. Yes some good people will escape hell and go to the nations of the saved, but most people are not capable of this. And if we reject the words of Jesus then his words will condemn us. Why not just take his offer of grace and give up you own efforts? Is it too simple, too humbling?

–“John appeared, baptizing in the wilderness and proclaiming a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.” (Mark 1:4) Forgiveness is not automatic; we look to the cross as Moses looked at the serpent on the pole.
“The one who remains in Me, and I in him, will bear much fruit. For apart from Me you can do nothing.” (John15:5)
–John answered them all, “I baptize you with water. But one who is more powerful than I will come, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.” (Luke 3:16) Both water baptism and spirit baptism symbolise death and resurrection. The life lived by the ‘tree of knowledge of good and evil’ must die so that the life lived by the ‘tree of life’ can flourish.

Justice and Judgment

There must be justice because justice is a part of God’s character, even if hell is temporary, and only a small number actually end up in the lake of fire. There are always consequences – unless we put them on Jesus.
“The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.” (John 12:48)
God is love, but because we have free will and an enemy in the ether, if we listen to Lucifer’s doctrines in this life we will belong to him and suffer with him in the next life. If we listen to Jesus we will belong to Jesus.
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God”. (John 3:18) (his name means God is salvation)
Jesus constantly warned about the dangers of Hell.

Sheol (realm of the dead) and Abaddon are before the LORD: how much more then the hearts of the children of men! (Prov 15:11)

 

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